From: Andrew Dunbar (hippietrail@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri May 10 2002 - 00:20:51 EDT
--- Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <rms@1407.org> wrote: >
On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 16:07, Dom Lachowicz wrote:
> > On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 11:03, Rui Miguel Silva
> Seabra wrote:
> > > Well, some staff at the FSF actually use
> AbiWord, according to Bradley
> > > Kuhn, so that's why I missed the joke (although
> probably not Richard,
> > > lest he wants to convert a damned (proprietary)
> document into a Free
> > > format), sorry! :)
> >
> > And if I remember properly, he wants us to ignore
> the proper semantics
> > of xml:space so that he can hand-edit his
> documents in emacs with hard
> > line-wrapping automatically set to 80 chars.
> Allegedly he even bought
> > HippieTrail lunch to talk this over...
>
> I think you're remembering improperly :)
>
> We do not use xml:space, so whitespace should be
> completely irrelevant.
>
> He could _never_ tell us to ignore the proper
> semantics of xml:space,
> because that would not be right, and since I've yet
> to see a :space in
> any tag we're wrinting in documents, which means
> that white space should
> be irrelevant.
>
> Also, the problem was related, IIRC to the way we do
> (or did?) line
> breaks and paragraph breaks.
Okay this is how it goes since we're discussing it
now.
His idea of the problem was that Abi using raw line-
feed characters (and tab characters) in the plain text
within the XML to be too confusing to edit with emacs.
Not being to edit an .abw as plain text is obviously
not a bug as far as I'm concerned. But I wasn't sure
what the XML standard said about raw LFs and TABs in
the text. In HTML and XHTML these are both collapsed
to a single space. To use raw LF or TAB you would
have to use the entities and 	 which are
also perfectly good XML.
So I thought it might actually be possible that were
generating illegal XML and there was an easy fix.
The fix would *happen to* fix Bradley's gripe too.
When I looked into the XML spec later it was a bit
vague but it seemed that raw LF and TAB was perfectly
legitimate.
Thus there was definitely no bug and nothing was
"fixed".
> I think there are more important things to do yet,
> though.
>
> Also, I do not think he bought Andrew's lunch (in
> fact, lunches would be
> more appropriate since it was 18EUR for three meals
> at GUADEC) just to
> talk this over :)
Well all the lunches were yummy and much appreciated
(:
Andrew.
> Hugs, rms
>
> --
> + No matter how much you do, you never do enough --
> unknown
> + Whatever you do will be insignificant,
> | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi
> + So let's do it...?
>
> ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature
name=signature.asc
=====
http://linguaphile.sourceforge.net http://www.abisource.com
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Everything you'll ever need on one web page
from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts
http://uk.my.yahoo.com
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.4 : Fri May 10 2002 - 00:23:54 EDT