From: Dom Lachowicz (doml@appligent.com)
Date: Mon Mar 04 2002 - 21:37:19 GMT
Hi Francisco,
On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 15:53, Francisco Bornéo wrote:
> So, why do you release in the web?
> A singer, a poet, a painter and a programmer, well every creator don't
do a
> work for his own. We do our works for the world!!
People ultimately do things because those things interest them. Some
people do things in order to get money, sex, food, recognition. Even
selfless acts are somewhat selfish. Not everyone is a "starving artist"
who does everything for the most "pure and noble" of intentions, if such
things really do exist.
I work on AbiWord because *I* want to, not because other people want me
to. This means that:
1) I don't have to implement anything I don't want to
2) I don't have to fix any bug that I don't want to
3) I don't have to answer any question that I don't want to
Our works inevitably get released to the world. However, *very* often we
do things for ourselves and not for the betterment of all humanity.
I'm *very* happy that people find AbiWord interesting and useful. It
brings me a lot of joy that something I've worked on has helped others.
But I do not work on AbiWord to help others. I work on AbiWord because I
want to help me. It interests me. I release Abi to the world in the hope
that other people find it interesting and useful. If your interests
don't match mine, don't expect them to get implemented/fixed/answered
unless you find some way to motivate me.
> > > Why do you think "smart programs usually end up being dumb and
annoying" ?
> > > Why such fear??
>
> Why???
Because they try to replace a smart being (human) with an algorithm for
some meaningless task, like capitalizing a letter. Ok, having smart
algorithms for managing nuclear reactions is a good thing. But I would
not call nuclear reactions a "meaningless trivial task." Having smart
algorithms to make letters that I did not capitalize capitalized is
another issue entirely...
> >Feel free to send us a patch. I have no interest in doing this.
>
> You know I am not a software manager, an engineer, a designer and
> documentation writer. So, I do not know how to write a patch. You do
not
> need to be ironic, by the way "be ironic" is an art!!
Irony is an art, but I was not ironic. If you cannot do something and
you cannot motivate someone to do something for you, you're out of luck.
Like it or not, it's the way the world works.
> >There's a difference, as is shown by people's opinions on the mailing
> >list so far - not one person has agreed with you.
>
> How many people are in the list? How many people, that are only users,
> really write to the list???
> I do not understand nothing at all about codes, scripts and so on, I
do not
> have a good english, but I have no fear of say what I'm thinking. In
> Brasil, we learning to do things in this way. We spent and fight a
long
> time to live in a democratic country!
>
> >I'm the only developer who has disagreed with you.
>
> Alan and Francis are not developers?
Alan is not a developer. Alan agreed with me.
http://www.abisource.com/mailinglists/abiword-user/02/Mar/0029.html
"I really hate when it does that."
Francis is a developer. Francis agreed with me.
http://www.abisource.com/mailinglists/abiword-user/02/Mar/0027.html
"I really hate this kind of feature"
> I did. And I do not understand why a simple request turns almost in a
> tempest. (What I really want to say was: por que uma questão tão
simples
> ofende a tantos egos, tornando-se uma tempestade. - but I do not know
how
> to say it in english. If someone understand portuguese, please
translate it)
"Why does so simple of a question offend your ego and become a
tempest/storm". Your translation was perfect.
I didn't start a tempest, I just said "no" to your feature request. It
is my right as developer and maintainer to do so. I don't have to do as
you wish. If you don't like my "no" answer, convince someone else to do
this work for you or do it yourself. You have failed to convince me.
You replied to my "no" email personally (not on the list) and tried to
convince me that you were right. I still disagree with you.
> You don't need to be sorry, I understand your point of view, I
disagree but
> I respect it. You just need to respect me!
I do.
Dom
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