From: Dom Lachowicz (doml@appligent.com)
Date: Sat Oct 05 2002 - 11:18:37 EDT
Hi All,
Yesterday Marc did a great favor for me by tagging the release and
posting the tarball to SF.net. My connection is dog-slow (thanks
Verizon) and I'm actually pretty sick right now, so I really needed to
get a few hours of sleep.
Everything Marc did was with my blessing and at my request. SF's upload
policy is silly (I pity those who have ever done a release using
SF.net), and won't let you overwrite an existing file. So the new
filename had to be changed, and the -1 tag seemed to be a perfect
suggestion. The addition of the "upstream relmark" is moot. This
release isn't meant to be redistributed upstream. Any upstream packager
would have to be on crack to release Abi 1.1.0. But that's just my
opinion.
I for one greatly appreciate both Marc and MG's work. However, this
sort of behavior or even flamage should be directed at me, if at
anyone, and though I don't appreciate the heat, I will gladly take it
rather than have Marc get frustrated. I don't appreciating Marc's
getting frustrated after doing me and the whole Abi community a favor.
Pointed disagreements, inquisitiveness, and constructive criticism are
always welcome. This sort of behavior is not.
Thanks,
Dom
On Saturday, October 5, 2002, at 09:29 AM, j.m.maurer wrote:
> To all abiword developers,
>
> I'm writting this message because I'm sick and tired of getting flamed
> at. Lemme explain the situation in short (Note to EAZen: please do NOT
> include this is your AWN).
>
> Last night Dom released abiword-1.1.0. Cause he's on a slow connection
> he asked on IRC if someone would tag the new release, create a tarball
> and upload it to SF. I volunteerd. After release-1-1-0 was tagged (not
> by me) I spent my evening getting the source from nyorp (which was
> quite
> slow from here) to make a tarball. After getting the all the modules
> and
> running autogen.sh, I created and uploaded abiword-1.1.0.tar.gz to
> upload.sourceforge.net.
>
> When it was uploaded I found a crasher bug which made abiword useless.
> I
> immediatelycommitted a fix, retagged the release-1-1-0 and created a
> new
> abiword-1.1.0.tar.gz package. Now, since I do not have write access to
> upload.sourceforge.net and the old package was still in the way, I had
> to rename the package so I could upload it. I named it
> abiword-1.1.0-2.tar.gz. Whoever placing it in the SF files section
> could
> rename it or just leave the name as it was. By this time it was 5:00
> AM.
>
> When waking up this morning, I checked my mail and found the following
> message:
>
>
> From:
> Mark Gilbert
> <markgilbert@hotpop.com>
> To:
> j.m.maurer
> <j.m.maurer@student.utwente.nl>
> Subject:
> Re: Commit: FIX
> CRASH AT STARTUP
> Date:
> 05 Oct 2002
> 00:34:44 -0400
>
>
>
> On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 22:44, j.m.maurer wrote:
>> retagged & tarball uploaded to upload.sf.net (it will be there in
> about
>> 25 minutes). Could someone move this to the files area?
>>
>
> You must be absolutely insane. I am speechless. Fsck I bet even EAZen
> or Alan knows better than that. You're sending me into convulsions
> here.
>
>> 7967b2d75f911d39e800e973d25800cb abiword-1.1.0-2.tar.gz
>
> *vomits all over uwog and his passwd entries for sf and cvs, obscuring
> all three*
>
>>
>> Please mind the -2 addition. The file abiword-1.1.0.tar.gz should be
>
> Oh believe me, I mind it. You are insane. Even me, on crack, after a
> month without sleep would not be dumb enough for an upstream relmark.
> I
> don't know what to say.
>
>>> right... we can't get more silly than this....
>
> (out of context) I'll say
>
>>> at startup by a ifdef DEBUG for endnotes...
>
> Not the first time. We had a couple in stable that I fixed for 1.0.3.
>
>>>
>>> I've committed the fix and will retag (if I can figure out how).
> After
>
> Ugh. Oh dear. What are we going to do with you?
>
>>> that, I'll reupload a tarball (if I'm still awake)
>
> Did hub or dom tell you to do this? If so I'll stop whining at you,
> but
> really...
>
>
> Extremely flustered, going to force himself to calm down now
> -MG
>
>>>>>>>>>> End of attached message
>
>
>
> I was stunned. This is not the first time pleople are flaming me for no
> appearant reason. If I'm a pain in the ass of any AbiWord developer,
> please tell me. If I'm jeopardizing the succes of AbiWord in *any* way,
> please tell me, cause that's the last thing I want to do. If the code I
> produce is of a low quality, then please, please remove my CVS access,
> and I'll send patches to this list instead for you all to review.
>
> I *fully* realize that I did not contribute a great deal of code to
> AbiWord, but I have great joy in contributing code to AbiWord when I
> can
> find the spare time to do it.
>
> Now, if all I get is flames from people like Mark, I'll stop working on
> AbiWord. Spending my free friday evening and night with Wendy seems way
> more sensible to me then.
>
> Yours
> Marc Maurer.
>
>
> --
> j.m.maurer <j.m.maurer@student.utwente.nl>
>
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