From: Andrew Dunbar (hippietrail@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri Oct 11 2002 - 23:57:12 EDT
--- ericzen <ericzen@ez-net.com> wrote: > On
2002.10.11 22:18 Andrew Dunbar wrote:
> > --- Karl Ove Hufthammer <karl@huftis.org> wrote:
> >
> > Jordi Mas <jmas@softcatala.org> wrote in
> > > news:3DA6F7DD.8010801@softcatala.org:
> > >
> > > > Northern Sami, se, se_fi
> > >
> > > This is incorrect. It should be 'se_NO', or
> > > preferably only 'se' (Northern Sami is used in
> both
> > > Norway, Sweden and Finland, but use a common
> > > orthography). But why do you use countries in
> the
> > > language tags? This only unnecessarily restricts
> > > their uses.
> >
> > Thanks Karl. This always bugs me. We currently
> have
> > absurdities such as la-IT for Rennaiscance Latin.
> > What has the country code for Italy got to do with
> a
> > variety of a language belonging to a historic
> period?
> >
> > Well there's no country code for "rennaissance"
> you
> > may say. Exactly. No country to me means don't
> put
> > a country - not pick whatever country.
> >
> > Anyway I've wanted a real solution to this for
> ages
> > and a proper discussion about it so we can design
> it.
> > Please check out my oft-advertised bug report:
> > http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3227
> > "Need to extend language tags".
> > I think we need to invent a "language object"
> which
> > can hold more and more precise info than the mere
> ISO
> > tags. We should use the objects exclusively and
> only
> > (lossily) convert them to the ISO tags where
> necessary
> > for foreign file formats. Our own file format
> should
> > of course have a non-lossy equivalent.
> >
> > There I said it (:
> >
> > Andrew.
> >
> > > --
> > > Karl Ove Hufthammer
> >
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>
> la-RO perhaps?
> su-UR sumarian?
> is there an assignment for "as", if so, we could use
> ay for Assyrian.
Nope because the formula of the tags is ISO 639 + dash
+ ISO 3166
Both of these ISO standards have changed and will
change again. So we can't just make up our own
letters. I'm sure this is specifically forbidden in
some RFC somewhere. RO is probably Romania and even
if it's not it's entirely likely to become something
at some point and then we'd be in trouble.
It *is* legal to use tags such as "x-foo". IANA has
accepted registrations for such with x- and art- and
maybe another which escapes me. I see these used for
Lojban and Klingon for instance.
Note that in this case "x" is no longer a language
code so parsing the tags is potentially more complex.
> For your amusement only.
Don't worry I was amused (:
Andrew.
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