From: Dom Lachowicz (doml@appligent.com)
Date: Tue Mar 05 2002 - 15:52:03 GMT
Hi Francisco,
On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 17:33, Francisco Bornéo wrote:
> At 16:37 4/3/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> Olá Dom,
>
> >Not everyone is a "starving artist" who does everything for the most "pure
> >and noble" of intentions, if such things really do exist.
>
> I did not say that and I did not expect it from you. All I said is when any
> creator of any work put it in the world, or tun it public, he must expected
> replies, critics, and suggestions. And, for sure, we have to be humble to
> think of them. When we launch something in the world we begin a dialogue
> with the world, many times against our will. That is the price to be public
> and creative! Many times, in this inevitable dialogue, people who talk to
> us are not so intelligent like us. But, even in this case, we have to stop
> and think of it. And like it or not, that the way things happens. I call
> it democracy!
Yes, I expect suggestions, thanks, replies, etc... However, this is not
a democracy - it is closer to an autonomous meritocracy. We all don't
get to choose what I do. I get to choose what I do. You're free to try
and persuade me to your way of thinking however you feel fit. That's
your right. I've listened to your case, and I still respectfully
disagree with it. That's not to say that your point doesn't have its
merits - believe me, it does. I just respectfully refuse to do what you
want me to.
> >Ok, having smart algorithms for managing nuclear reactions is a good
> >thing. But I would
> >not call nuclear reactions a "meaningless trivial task."
>
> Well, Dom, some people are more interest in "meaningless trivial task" than
> "managing nuclear reactions". It's the way the world works. Think of it.
True enough. People do care about the things I think of as "trivial."
Some people call this "polish" on a program. Other people call it
"annoying behavior", "bloatware", and "Clippy the Paperclip." I'm not
opposed to features in general, but this one in particular.
Some people have requeste that this feature should be optional. Again,
even if this feature is optional and disabled by default, I still won't
code it. There are other things that I would much rather spend my time
on. Again, this is a meritocracy. Feel free to somehow get a patch to
appear in my email account. I might commit it. Just because I refuse to
implement a particular feature doesn't mean that I won't commit it if
someone else does the work.
You can't please everyone all of the time. It's just the way things are.
> >I do not understand why a simple request turns almost in a
> > > tempest.
> >"Why does so simple of a question offend your ego and become a
> >tempest/storm". Your translation was perfect.
>
> No it was not, I tried to say egos, I was thinking in general, not exactly
> in you. By the way, do understand portuguese?
I know how to use babelfish.altavista.com and speak a bit of Portuguese,
yes.
> >I didn't start a tempest,
>
> I did not say that, I was thinking in the list. I'm not blaming you, of
> course not. You know, Dom, english is not my language, I know it is very
> bad and primarily. I have a lot of difficulties to explain exactly what I
> think, sometimes.
I think that our main problem is a language barrier. Two native English
speakers (whom happen to be developers) thought that you had offended
them when they had done you no harm. You thought that they had offended
you and started a "tempest" when you had done them no harm. Clearly
apologies are in order from both sides here. For what it's worth, I'm
sorry that we had a mis-communication. My intent wasn't to insult you,
it was to explain my reasoning for why I do not want your proposed
feature in AbiWord and that I refuse to implement the proposed feature
myself.
Your English is pretty good though, I must say. It's better than my
Portuguese.
> >I do.
>
> Sometimes it does not looks likes. But I guess it is just a wrong
> impression. I disagree with you but I respect you and admire your work!
Francisco, I've helped you in the past and I'll help you again in the
future if you need it. I don't believe that I've insulted you, but if I
have, I'm sorry. Again, I think that this is just another "stupid"
language issue.
Dom
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